"Well, Des can't take a physical form at all, which is why she's in here with me. She's also limited by the body she has to work with. A demon in a cat would have a cat's level of intellect. But your familiar sounds like more like a cat shape than an actual cat."

Penric wondered what they would be able to see if they got a look at Frumpkin. Des's Sight mostly was tuned to souls, but they did have some awareness of matter. Useful for things like medicine, where problems could be hidden.

"I would be interested in that. I also know how shamans operate, for comparison. I spent some years studying with them, after an interesting case. Saints... they operate by channeling their god. I went to seminary, but there is only so much one can learn without direct experience."

And while Penric has been in the presence of a god more times than most -- both in the company of saints, and when a god has a chance to deliver a message to an ordinary person (in as much the gods thought anyone was ordinary) -- it is still not something he can describe in words.